daveb47 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Unfeckinbelievable Muslim husbands with more than one wife to get extra benefits as ministers recognise polygamy Husbands living in a "harem" with multiple wives have been cleared to claim state benefits for all their different partners. A Muslim man with four spouses - which is permitted under Islamic law - could receive £10,000 a year in income support alone. He could also be entitled to more generous housing and council tax benefit, to reflect the fact his household needs a bigger property. Scroll down for more... Extra benefits: Muslim men with multiple wives can claim more for income support Ministers have decided that, even though bigamy is a crime in Britain, polygamous marriages can be recognised formally by the state - provided they took place overseas, in countries where they are legal. The outcome will chiefly benefit Muslim men with more than one wife. Ministers estimate that up to a thousand polygamous partnerships exist in Britain, although they admit there is no exact record. Potentially, the benefits bill for income support could reach £10m. New guidelines on income support from the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) state: "Where there is a valid polygamous marriage the claimant and one spouse will be paid the couple rate (£92.80). "The amount payable for each additional spouse is presently £33.65." Income support for all of the wives may be paid directly into the husband's bank account, if the family so choose. Chris Grayling, the shadow work and pensions secretary, said that the decision was "completely unjustifiable". He added: "You are not allowed to have multiple marriages in the UK, so to have a situation where the benefits system is treating people in different ways is totally unacceptable and will serve to undermine confidence in the system. "This sets a precedent that will lead to more demands for the culture of other countries to be reflected in UK law and the benefits system." Mr Grayling also accused the Government of trying to keep the ruling quiet because the topic is so controversial. Corin Taylor, research director for the Taxpayers' Alliance, said: "British taxpayers are paying a record amount of tax so the Government has a duty to make sure that every penny is spent properly. "Polygamy is not something which British law allows and therefore British taxpayers should not have to pay for extra benefits for second or third wives. "If other countries sanction polygamy that is fine but the British taxpayer should not have to fund it." Ministers launched a review of the benefit rules for polygamous marriages in November 2006, after it emerged that some families had benefited financially. The review concluded in December last year with agreement that the extra benefits should continue to be paid. But the decision was not publicly announced. Four departments - the Treasury, the DWP, HM Revenue and Customs, and the Home Office - were involved in the review, which concluded that recognising multiple marriages conducted overseas was 'the best possible' option. In Britain, bigamy is punishable by up to seven years in prison. Islamic law permits men to have up to four wives at any one time - known as a harem - provided the husband spends equal amounts of time and money on each of them. The DWP believes the number of people in polygamous marriages entering Britain has fallen since the 1988 Immigration Act, which makes it harder to bring more than one wife to the UK. But, while a married man cannot obtain a spouse visa to bring a second wife into Britain, some multiple partners may be able to enter the country via other legal routes such as tourist visas, student visas or work permits. Officials have also identified a potential loophole by which a man can divorce his wife under British law while continuing to live with her as his spouse under Islamic law, and obtain a spouse visa for a foreign woman who he can legally marry. Immigration rules say entry clearance may not be withheld from a second wife where the husband has divorced his previous wife, and the divorce is thought to be one of convenience. This is so, even if the husband is still living with the previous wife and to issue the entry clearance would lead to the formation of a polygamous household. Muslim couples are only married in the eyes of the British state if they undergo a register office wedding as well as a Nikah, or religious ceremony. Muslim groups say it is quite common for men here to undergo more than one Nikah with different wives. This does not count as bigamy since only the first marriage is legally recognised. A DWP spokesman said: 'There are fewer than 1,000 polygamous marriages in the UK and only a small percentage of these are claiming social security benefit. "We recently reviewed the rules regarding benefit payments to customers in a polygamous marriage, which conclude that the rules in place since 1987 provide the necessary safeguards to ensure there is no financial advantage for claimants in a valid polygamous marriage." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djweeble Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 That's an old one Dave, back in 2008 if IIRC. What that article failed to state though was, under Islamic law, muslim men are only allowed to take multiple wives if they can AFFORD to look after them, NOT "if the state can afford to look after them" So it is wrong, I agree, but it's not the muslims doing the wrong here, it's our interfering politician masters getting it wrong yet again. My new religion, Threeupmanship, allows me to have up to three nymphomaniac female spouses at one time, all have to sleep in the same bed with me, and all have to wear no clothing whilst in the house, will they give me more money to support them . . . . Answers please on the back of a fiver to . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazling Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Speechless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Yep, DJ is correct... Linky from 2008 It might be helpful Dave if you could show how many polygamists have benefitted since, and then maybe you would have a majority of people agreeing with you... But could you tell me what is the difference between your outdated report and a more recent one (amongst many others), apart from the fact that it is one of our own indigenous scroungers... (apart from of course a different skin colour/religion... :Winky: ) Linky how many benefits will all those 'girlfriends' be claiming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamer Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Good in the UK eh.. :thumbs-down1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveb47 Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 Yep, DJ is correct... Linky from 2008 It might be helpful Dave if you could show how many polygamists have benefitted since, and then maybe you would have a majority of people agreeing with you... But could you tell me what is the difference between your outdated report and a more recent one (amongst many others), apart from the fact that it is one of our own indigenous scroungers... (apart from of course a different skin colour/religion... :Winky: ) Linky how many benefits will all those 'girlfriends' be claiming? Whoohoo sparky has had a jumpstart lol So it was the labour clowns who thought of this one, lol No idea how many have benefitted by this,but 1 is too many in my opinion. And as for that moron,he should have been castrated years ago. Any property he has should be confiscated to pay for his families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 No idea how many have benefitted by this,but 1 is too many in my opinion. Like I said, if there are any then most would agree... But there are an awful lot of claims made about things that never happen... (Btw, last I heard was that Alton Towers was planning to hold an 'Islamic Polygamists only day'... :Winky: ) The assumed premise that they all get benefits is that they are "all claiming benefits intended for single mothers and their children". I wonder how many 'indigenous' single mums there are claiming benefit from a single father? - and on top of that housing benefit for each one! And how many people have affairs do you think?.....Polygamy is in effect just legalising affairs in the islamic community! Quite distasteful in my mind, but then again how many have 'open marriages' in western civilisation? We can go right to the top on that one too...what was it that one of the biggest benefit scroungers of all said?.... Something about that "There were three people in the marriage" I believe..... :Smiler: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djweeble Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 what was it that one of the biggest benefit scroungers of all said?.... Something about that "There were three people in the marriage" I believe..... :Smiler: Cue All1 :Fun: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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