sparks

Just out of interest, can you upload an new avatar image nowadays?

Replace it with one of a 'two-eyed (semi) scottish idiot'?

My grandkids love it the wife loves its once a year,There are some miserable bxxstards that turn there lights off and hide behind the curtains aint there sparks.

I'm sure there are...however, they are usually the old/infirm who don't want to get harrassed! Or is it not allowed for them to try and avoid something that may scare them ?

As for me, I just point out our notice and ask them if they can read... especially if they have an adult in tow!

Some might think it all goes off so sweetly, like those good ole clips from the good ole USA, but in many cases it doesn't.

Is there anything that you don't like on principle?

The whole community embraced it.

yeah right.... broken wipers, upturned bins, eggs and flour all over, and abusive kids/teens...

Some 'tradition' !.... :thumbs-down1:

Ronnie

As you say, you don't know what had gone on before....And was an offence committed, or do you just assume one had been?

But during this incident, resistance wasn't being offered, and even if it had been it wouldn't have justified state brutality of the kind meted out!

To think otherwise is plain stupid...

Respect is a two way thing, and the police have very little respect for the public. Therefore a large proportion of the public quite rightly have no respect for them!

To coin a phrase, I wouldn't p*ss on one.......!

Will they never learn that they are being recorded?

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"I didn't hang around to see how it ended because they'd seen me filming and I wasn't taking any chances after what I'd just witnessed.

Too right - the c*nts would have given out the same treatment to him had they 'caught' him!

Of course there will be nothing more than a 'slap on the wrist', but can anyone say that they respect the pigs anymore?...

it's one day a year, might even make you smile :Scull:

Tell that to the equally miserable gits who complain when I let off my 'one day a year' fireworks barrage on Dec 31st...

Horses for courses!

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It's approaching that time when kids are encouraged to 'demand goods with menaces'...

Ours aren't allowed to partake in this cr*ppy imported 'tradition'...

And despite our polite notice, the doorbell still gets rung...

However I was puzzled as to why our 8 year old asked me to get some sprouts today....

After asking why, I was told that her and her younger sister have been saving their sunday sweet wrappers, and want to put the sprouts in them to 'reward' those that won't read that notice !

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Pheeewwww, your a bundle of laughs aren't you sparks? :Smiler:

 

All1

Realism can be a drag sometimes... :Winky:

I used to live in Camberwell in the 80's and remember going round my area and seeing all these green coaches parked up with old bill sitting in them waiting for it to kick of in Brixton so remember that time well.

A mate's brother was in our local farce, and he looked forward to being drafted to london then (and also up north to tackle the miners), to do what he referred to as 'well-paid legal thuggery'!

You see the problem with welfare is IMO you do see these bods living a life of almost luxury on the dole and rightly so people who work get the hump with them the problem is not everyone on the dole is like that, were all being tarred with the same brush and i can see it ending in some very tragic circumstances for some people, i mean if you loose your home what do you have to live for.

I do differentiate...That's why I disagree with the policy on re-assessing someone's entitlement to a council house. So what if you start earning more, since in the private sector your rent isn't linked to your incoming money. Neither is a mortgage, although your eligibility to get one is...

The other thing that is wrong here is council house 'transfer' restrictions...there was a case here of a guy who had lived with his parents all his life, caring for both of them to the end of their lives and on the death of the last one was given two months to move out of the house he had lived in for 48 years (since age 2) within 2 months....he threw himself under a train!

But where I do have a problem is with the attitude of 'well I've got a house for life with benefits, so I won't ever work'...except 'on the black' of course!

As for total debt this country is in i'm far from being a business analyst but even i can understand that when you add various things up were in deeper sh1t then most even know, there is the straight forward debt, money we owe from PFI/PPP and i think you mentioned pensions as well, i'm surprised so few people mention this.

It's not mentioned widely, because if it were the chaos I believe is inevitable would merely be brought forward...

I don't know how we can make our commitments the TaxPayers’ Alliance done a report about it a few days ago and it can be found HERE the only way round it i can see is the IMF to step in and renegotiate many countries loans otherwise the place will be a nightmare.

My pessimism is not so great as to accept a lot of the conclusions of that link...although the debt we do have is unpayable!

But funnily enough, I think the only way we can get out of this in the long run is to declare UK PLC bankrupt...And bringing in the IMF is the equivalent of commiting suicide! We actually contribute to the IMF whilst having a debt we cannot pay, so that is the economics of the asylum - and the strings attached to an IMF intervention are crippling...I know through my links with Iceland. It hasn't been reported that much here, but their assets are being stripped away in front of them and so many are losing absolutely everything! A recent relative who visited has lost 80% of his pension despite those running the pension funds getting off scot free. And he has personally thrown rocks at the parliament's windows at the age of 68 having never done anything slightly controversial in his life!

Yes we will go back half a century, but we will have to learn to live sustainably again...that and learn mandarin, which our kids are starting next year - it's the best investment we can make for them IMO !

All1

TBH I'm not sure at all what the trigger will be...

One thing is clear - we are seeing the start of the dismantling of the welfare state! Later on we will see the disappearance of the NHS as we know it, and most 'public' services will become available only to the rich and the so called poor.

Recent governments have been very astute to avoid their own 'poll tax moment', and have been increasingly successful at 'divide and rule'. Note how easily they managed to get those working in the private sector to start moaning about public sector pensions being 'too good', instead of protesting as to why their private pensions had been raided which made them so much worse!

Maybe I'm guilty of that too...I'm sure that there are many worthy cases out there, but by my estimation there are far more scrounging scumbags! I recall when maggie brought in the '90's recession, and due to our interest rate going up to about 14%, we were juggling 4 jobs between the two of us just to pay the mortgage. We put off having kids for a decade because we couldn't afford them, and yet on one of our night jobs (delivering curries) we would go back time and again to the same scroungers with their broods of abusive kids, new cars, sky dishes etc which we could never afford. We basically only ate for nearly 2 years on the food we got at that job! Of course we were accruing an asset called a house weren't we? - well it's an 'asset' that will be worthless soon! And yet many of those 'abusive kids' are now playing the same game having spawned the next generation of scoungers. The UK has been sucked dry by the scum at the top, and the scum at the bottom, and I've been paying for both! Nothing has changed in decades!

A rebalancing needs to be done, and people have to realise that the safety net should be just that - not a way of life! In the same way, the w*nkers at the top need to be hammered!

And the bottom line is ludicrous values put on everything need to plummet....your example of your rent is typical - the 80% level needs to come down, not your payments go up!

What is happening is the 'invisible ones' are instructing governments to 'asset strip' countries to keep their system running for a little while longer!

But if I were to bet on what will actually light the fuse, I would say it would be on an estate somewhere when one of these new measures leads to a (possibly wrong) eviction, which then spills over in the same way as the riots of the '80's. Only this time, as you observe, there won't be that many plods to contain it. Maybe then other protestors will jump on the bandwagon, and services/supplies drying up will fan the flames...

And the funny thing is that these measures don't even start to tackle the debt we have, and just mean we are going to add to it more slowly - there is no way we can actually ever pay our national debt back, and when someone actually pulls the plug (as they surely will), we face total collapse.

Whether the chaos comes when this happens, or whether the chaos causes it is the £3trillion question!

I love the French they don't sit back and take shit like we do here,Good on em.

Exactly...

But I wonder what will eventually bring us on to the streets?

The cancellation of X factor?

Things are warming up...

France burns as strike descends into violence

France teetered on the edge of a complex and multi-layered crisis yesterday as petrol shortages worsened and violence by disaffected suburban youths spread and intensified......

 

 

The sense of crisis threatening the country came not from these "official" protests but from spreading blockages of schools and universities by students and by continuing strikes at oil refineries and the picketing of fuel distribution depots by hardline union branches.

Of course our apathetic population will need more to stir them, but stir they will eventually...

The chaos is coming...!

And the best bit is you get paid in Norwegian currency - not this soon to be worthless pile of sh*t called 'Sterling'...!

The French are revolting...

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The BBC's Christian Fraser in Paris says another concern for the government will be the growing involvement of the student lobby.

 

Students, who joined Tuesday's demonstrations in large numbers, held further protests on Friday.

 

Riot police used tear gas and made 16 arrests as they fought running battles with secondary school students in the central city of Lyon.

It's a pity our students are so gutless...the French are so right when they criticise our anglo-saxon values... or in other words our slavery to american commercialism!

It's only a matter of time though until we come to our senses...

vive la france!

Apparently, Claire Raynor's last words before she died yesterday were for Camoron.....

"Mess with my beloved NHS and I'll come back and haunt you!"

Nice to see some are doing something, despite having no history of protest.... :Thumbs_Up1:

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Managed to be funny whilst also being nice...one of the last of those!

And his status in Albania still makes me chuckle!

R.I.P.

Good Riddance!

Raoul Moat Taser company man 'kills himself'

 

The director of operations of the firm which supplied the Tasers used during the stand-off with gunman Raoul Moat is understood to have killed himself.

 

Former police officer Peter Boatman, of the Daventry firm Pro-Tect, was found dead on Friday morning, his business partner said.

 

Earlier this week it emerged supplier Pro-Tect breached its licence by supplying X12 Tasers direct to police.

 

The Home Office confirmed the firm had had its licence revoked.

 

'Devastated'

 

Mr Boatman's business partner, Kevin Coles, told BBC News that Mr Boatman had been found dead.

 

He said he was "devastated" at the news.

 

He added that Mr Boatman was a "proud man" who had worked hard to protect the police and had felt "ashamed" at the recent developments.

 

He said the Home Office ban and the subsequent coverage had "destroyed" him.

 

Pro-Tect was accused of supplying a new Taser weapon to Northumbria Police during the Raoul Moat manhunt in breach of Home Office rules because the Taser had not been fully tested.

 

Mr Coles said Pete Boatman had only wanted to help police officers who were caught up in the hunt for Moat.

 

Northamptonshire Police, which was investigating the company, is preparing to issue a statement.

The thought of 'slam dunking' Blears doesn't bear thinking about.... :Laugh:

And the cuts havn't even scratched the surface yet!

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The chaos has been put off a while with 'money printing', but that has only bought a bit of time....and it will be even worse as a result!

I thought it would kick off this summer, but it looks like 2011 might be meltdown time...

Unless of course governments are working to the mayan calendar... :Winky:

Linky

Mr Bean, who sits on the Bank's Monetary Policy Committee which sets interest rates, told Channel 4 News: "What we're trying to do by our policy is encourage more spending. Ideally we'd like to see that in the form of more business spending, but part of the mechanism that might encourage that is having more household spending so in the short term we want to see households not saving more but spending more."

That'll solve the problem....

Just a thought...

Apparently not far short of the government figure has also been raised by the public, and not just from the pakistani community...

This without the fanfare of say something like 'children in need'. So does it not at least give an idea that a sizeable percentage of the population do wish to help?

At first look good news...

However, having thought about it...

A lot of what is being axed is there to hold the government and local authorities to account, let alone camoron/gideons business mates!...

And I wonder how much will actually be saved?

Sure i feel these kinds of benefits should be means testsed to some degree but trouble with that is im sure some would see it as begging and there is no way some would even ask for it, hard one.

 

That's always been the problem with means testing...those entitled are put off by the 'label', but those who aren't just lie because they don't care!

However, I've got a feeling (as you insinuated about october) that the next decade or so is going to change all that!

We're lucky in that we have never had to claim any benefits (apart from the so-called tax credits), and have done our share of holding down several jobs at a time...but we still have a mortgage, and yet see many who have done virtually nothing seemingly better off...and if we have a run of bad luck we (like many) could be f*cked because the safety net doesn't apply to us!

And as is often the case, who is the mug?