djweeble Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Plans by various governments to turn Internet Service Providers into unpaid copyright cops working on behalf of Big Content have been given a thumbs down by the European Court of Justice. While the Advocate General's ruling is not final yet, it should make entertainment industry bosses wake up in a cold sweat screaming "Rosebud". The Advocate General, Cruz Villalón, says that no ISP can be required to filter the Internet, and particularly not to enforce the copyright. He said that the installation of that filtering and blocking system is a restriction on the right to respect for the privacy of communications - and the right to protection of personal data, both of which are rights protected under the Charter of Fundamental Rights. Not only that, but the the deployment of such a system would restrict freedom of information, which is also protected by the Charter of Fundamental Rights. In other words it is illegal under European Law. All those ISPs who are currently filtering out The Pirate Bay and AllOfMP3 are actually breaking the law, rather than enforcing it. So FastWeb, it is time to do the decent thing. France's three strikes law, Spain's proposed court action against pirates, and the UK's forthcoming laws are all a breach of European Rights laws. There are ways around the ruling. Laws can be written requiring an ISP filter or block parts of the internet, but they have to conform to very strict rules that are applied to laws limiting fundamental rights, such as those preventing terrorism. But ISPs can't choose to limit what they present as "The Internet". Rick Falkvinge, from the Pirate Party, said that the ruling gives ISPs the power to say "go play on the highway, parasites, we have a paper from the highest possible court saying no court can force us to do that. We care more about our customers than about obsolete irrelevance". Source -> http://www.techeye.net/internet/european-court-says-no-isp-needs-to-filter-internet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamer Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Good news :Thumbs_Up1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc515151 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 it still wont stop BT traffic managing torrents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndLoser Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Great News! Now all we have to do is find a regulator in the UK who isn't corrupt. You'll know when that happens because Vodafone/BlueCoat will be for the high jump but we know that won't happen don't we. :Teeth: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 So yet another legal battle looms... High Court backs internet piracy clampdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alloneword Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 So yet another legal battle looms...Time to look more closely at VPN i think. All1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Indeed - If I knew what to do...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alloneword Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Indeed - If I knew what to do...lolLikewise only seen a few tv reports and webtv episodes about it as i say need to look into it soon as i think it's the only way to go by all accounts. All1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndLoser Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 BT and Talk Talk are going to appeal Well no one has tested in court an IP address as being evidence identifying a party assumed to be guilty of filesharing yet. And because ISP's cannot legally use Deep Packet Inspection technologies they can only detect that you are using P2P protocol when you are downloading content. Both torrents and streaming media use P2P protocol so how will they know that you aren't just watching a legitimate movie? I can see this law being disregarded by most ISP's, as it stands it's almost unenforceable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 And yet illegal or not, I find myself being constantly throttled by virgin... What it all come down to is the vested commercial interests, regardless of whatever law is or is not valid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 The IP address bit is funny. For this to even stand a chance of working ALL IP address's will need to be static (you think they will pass this type of law 1st if they know what they are talking about) I have a dynamic IP address like 95% of end users (I time shar my ip the are 255 people that can use it) What happends if a Person gets he's IP listed by a program but befor it gets loged that IP passes to me. If I got a letter I'd like to know who had the IP before me and after Me and who has got it on the day the sh** hit the fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndLoser Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 The IP address bit is funny. For this to even stand a chance of working ALL IP address's will need to be static (you think they will pass this type of law 1st if they know what they are talking about) I have a dynamic IP address like 95% of end users (I time shar my ip the are 255 people that can use it) What happends if a Person gets he's IP listed by a program but befor it gets loged that IP passes to me. If I got a letter I'd like to know who had the IP before me and after Me and who has got it on the day the sh** hit the fan. Precisely! Most ISP's would go under if they were made to supply all their customers with static IP's - it just wouldn't happen! It's the volume of work that the ISP's are going to need to do to prove illegal file sharing too and the business is so competitive not one of them would be willing in the current economic climate to pass the cost of that, and the cost of sending out warning letters, on to their customers. You know the copyright warning at the start of every film well getting a letter will be the equivalent of reading that because very little can be proved and they will just be guessing 99% of the time! It's just paying lip service to the likes of Time Warner (movies) so the government can say they're doing their bit to stop file sharing, when in reality it is almost unstoppable. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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